Well, I've been using alcar for a few years, I cycle it on and off. It has a very positive effect on energy levels, its a wierd type of energy though, not jittery or nervous like stims, its more of natrual awake feeling. I've read that its suppose to aid in fat loss, it helps to release fat stores for energy. I've never used it alone for fat loss, but it definately helps for fasted cardio.

Yo, I just noticed your from philly, I used to live in north philly, 21st street, right off olney.

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