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Old 08-25-2007, 12:09 PM
EricT EricT is offline
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Anuj, it's pointless to take two scoops of weightgainer AND wms...first of all who wouldn't feel bloated with all that hitting their stomachs and second do you realize how much carbs you took in? WMS by itself, especially pre-workout is VERY strong. Too much will cause a crash. You could have had any number of things going their...too much in your stomach diverting blood away from you muslces, a sugar crash, etc. so on.

You should be using the wms with about a half to two thirds scoop of whey and plenty of water and that's it. Start with half a dose of wms and see how it affects you. Then go from there. That may be good to go but if not you may need some separate malto and dex to mix it with in order to tone it down. Try reading some of the massive pre/post workout thread to get some ideas as to amounts. I know you don't like to use sups but if you are going to then you'll have to break down and learn about them.

The weightgainer you have may be OK for pre but not that much and it must be very dilute. The problem is that you can't control the amounts of carbs. And it is probably just malto. Dex and malto together work better than on alone but you must be able to control the amounts.

On th 10X3 it really isn't supposed to be easy per se. It certainly shouldn't be shit difficult but not exactly a walk in the park. You may want to try that weight again though. If it starts out too heavy of course you know you won't progress very far with it. BUT, 10x3 in my experience is never going to be a very long thing. Basically the feeling seems to be that you get a little doubtful that you can finish out the sets but recovery kicks in and you do it anyway. I've found that half-way through I slow down and get a second wind to finish fairly strong. It's been a while though, but in general the high density makes up for the light weight causing a fairly challenging set. Which is to say no where near as tough as, for example, a 5x5 after a good progression.

Good luck and welcome back.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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