All of that sounds right. I've finally gotten the right amount in my shakes, I think. It took a week or two, but I kind of figured it was just dependent on the person, etc. I always try to mix mine in 10oz of water and drink it right before my workout. Then I make sure to drink lots of water during my workout... I normally sip between each set. I just hate drinking a lot of water at one time before because I feel sick.