Ayup, Talo I too noticed that WMS felt a bit lighter. Certainly not SOO much better for me since I think I had my mixture down to start with. I'm just providing a little feedback so those who have a couple pounds of malto and/or dex don't get too discouraged if they bloat or crash at first.

I know for those of you who don't believe in or don't want carbs pre-workout this is probably a lot of talk for nothing, but it's just there to hopefully be helpful to those who need it.

When I was trying to alleviate the symptoms I was getting from the WMS I also ended up mixing it with malto and dex. This worked well also. But the symptoms never resolved completely so I had to drop the WMS.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.