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Old 12-19-2007, 09:37 AM
EricT EricT is offline
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We're getting into bodybuilder mentality here. Everything is inflated past all reality. A typical recommended dose of fish oil is a tsp not a tablespoon. Your typical capsule (what most people take) is a gram. The typical dose of that is 3 capsules give or take. Is there some reason a bodybuilder would see benefits with doses of say twice that much? Sure maybe. Thrice that much, doubtful. 10 times that much, c'mon. With any substance that may be good for you body there exists a very finite threshold between good and harmful. The negative effects of that much fish oil has been documented. However, the postive effect of that kind of overconsumption have not really been documented except in the short term. But flax oil and fish oil...two very different things.

Why people think that huge amounts will make huge differences is beyond me. It's a supplement not a magic bullet. With larger doses of fish oil taken for a short time someone might get more tryglyceride lowering...but for a long time you just don't know the consequences. Honestly I used to categorize things like fish oil as a "food". My reasoning was that other dietary oils were food so why not fish oil. But I've realized that doesn't make sense. We overconsume "oils" in general. Notwithstanding the need for efa's (3, 6 ,9) and the value of supplementing them the fact is there is nothing natural or "food-like" about consuming large amounts of expressed oils. And any oil can be overused in that regard. Consuming large amounts of "omegas" will lead to large amounts of oxidation, for one thing, just like with any other oil consumption.

I wonder where people even get the idea of such large amounts as far as actual scientific info. Most of the studies use 3 or 4 grams at the most. You may get a couple with 6 to 10 grams or e even 20 grams but that is really on the high end of it. And just because one study may say that 20 grams a day lowered triglycerides 70 some percent or whatever doesn't tell you what it's doing to the rest of you body. Antiinflammatory effects certainly don't need so much to be realized. Right now there is just a fish oil craze going on and personally, I would hold off on the huge doses until more is known.

Most of what you here about is media driven. That includes bodybuilding sources. Someone gets ahold of the idea that fish oil is good for us and it's inflated beyond all proportion so that the sky is the limit. Marketing seizes on that and the problem excalates. j

It is not really overconsumption of "omega 3" that I commented on. It is the overconsumption of fish oil. Omega 3 is a class of oils. ALA in flax oil and others is also an omega 3 and you can look at the info or lack of info on the positive and negative effects of that particular fatty acid to draw your own conclusions. But yes, I definitely think you can overconsume omega 3. I think you can overconsume anything. I know that the popular recommendation is to balance the ratios of omegas (various recommendations) but that is usually about getting more omega 3 to balance an overabundance of omega 6 in the diet. That doesn't really cover taking in too much period.

I have taken huge amounts of fish oil in the past though and I did have some complaints. Another thing someone could potentially notice, especially someone with problems with insulin control is blood sugar fluctuations. When I took large amounts of fish oil in the past that is something I experienced. Usually I have no problems in that regard but I am sensitive to large amounts of particular things. For someone with diabetes overconsumption of fish oil is definietly not recommended.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

Last edited by EricT; 12-19-2007 at 10:28 AM.
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