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EricT · 01-08-2008, 11:41 AM

I agree except for heavy being relative. If you are pulling 200 pounds at one point lower back in it and then later on you pull 250 with back in it then it is not because it is heavy it is because you always pull that way. Some people do that on purpose, of course.

The question, to me, IW is not whether it is ok in general or sometimes but whether it is OK for YOU. My answer to that is no.

However we have people coming from completely different mindsets. My advice is based on my opinion of what a row is good for, others on different opinions. In other words there are fundamental differrences in philosophy at work and as long as that exists you are not going to get any consistent answers.

For me, yes, sometimes, when you are at your heaviest it is ok to get some back in it. But not all the time or most of the time and certainly not while learing the lift.

For me if you are still learing and becoming comfortable with it, but can't get the bar up without compensating with lower back, then it's plain too heavy. You do not have to flop around to do a row "dynamically". But it's one of those illogical things, for me.

Most of the time if someone wants to do something as 'explosive' as possible they don't mix that with "the heaviest possible weight". The more you get to the max strength end of things the slower the velocity. Even an olympic lifter, if he wants to be at his/her speediest is not going to be going at it at 100%.

I'm repeating myself. Maybe I should ask why so many except they can barely do 3 or 4 pullups slow as hell but insist on being able to row 300 pounds "explosively".