20 ive been back in it for about a month and im seeing my strength go up quick but my size isnt. but i think i found a new alternativ. im starting to work out with joseph raley hes the great lake natural bodybuilding champ. and ive altered my diet to 3000 calories a day on rest day and over 4000 on workout days and this is gonna be over the 3 months. and im hopin to put on anywhere from 20-30 pounds and just shed the extra fat off in may.