From the info I've seen about havoc, it has a relatively low suppression rate, but I dont know much about Phera. I've seen a few people who swear that using an AI like ATD or 6OXO is sufficient for pct for havoc alone. However, IMO its always safe to do a full pct for every cycle you use. For me, that means using a serm like Nolva or Clomid, and running an AI inverse to it.

I just had a look at life support, and it is definately not sufficient for pct by itself. I would use it for a week prior to the cycle, through the cycle, and through pct though, everything in there is good for you. It has liver detoxifiers, RYR for lipids, and a ton of other goodies.

As for length, if its his first time I would suggest 4 weeks, starting with 20mg of havoc, and moving up to 30mg for the rest. Obviously if sides appear and they are serious, drop the dose, or discontinue, but make sure he has his pct on hand incase something happens. I will need to check into phera more closely to find out what is good stacking dosage.

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