If your deads are over 300 pounds and you are still doing well with grip then you are dong very well. (LOL, that was a bad sentence).

Don't hold me to this of course, but I'd say most health young guys of average ability will start having probs somewhere from 200 to 250...depending on the volume of course, and closer to 250.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.