BTW, I do want to warn people that if you dive into fullfledge grip training, something I used to do, beyond that of what is required to keep up you supporting strength for your pulling, it becomes a thing where the more types of things you do, the more other types of things you have to do. You got so many muscles and tendons at work that it's easy to get tendonitis and such if you don't keep thing's balanced.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.