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Old 02-03-2008, 04:01 PM
EricT EricT is offline
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That would be the USDA. FDA has nothing to do with food from livestock, etc..

This guy who wrote that has been sent at least one warning letter by the FDA for making ridiculous claims about some sup he sells. Telling people it would treat or cure their fibromialgia. Of course he doesn't like the FDA. They are not going to allow him to make money by victimising suffering people with bullshit miracle cures. Consider the source. The FDA has problems but don't think everybody who writes an article like this is some type of angel looking out for your interest. Just another guy looking to take your money if he can. The article is heavily slanted toward his agenda. Sup companies should be accoutable for what they do, what they claim, etc. just like the food idustry is supposed to be accountable.

Sorry, but people are way gullible and trusting when it comes to this stuff. Half the shit you buy doesn't even meat the label claims. It's one thing for people to be responsibe for their own decisions, but it won't do them any good when those decisions are based on false and misleading information. If a sup company buys a bunch of bulk crap from china and then throws it into a sup, damn right, they should be keeping records of everything. Half the crap could be contaminated with whatever. Most people read the labels of the food they buy but most people don't have a clue what's in all the pills they take. It's ridiculous.

It's gotten ridiculous with American companies not taking any responsibility for the things they market. You got toys coming from china that either kills kids or makes them sick. Kills them! But it's an American company selling it. THEY are responsible. Just as responsible as the government and the suppliers or manufacturers who take shortcuts. I heard some candidate saying the solution is to "buy American". Idiot. Most of the crap we buy is from an American company...it's just not made here. But I digress...

You'd think the dietary sup industry was so essential we'd all be dead without it. If half the stuff on the market is gone tommorow...guess what, most of it was snake oil anyway, lol. People are virtually throwing away money on "health options" that if they "depend" on them it is mostly in their minds. Sure there is some good stuff but you think we really need "colloidal silver" claiming to cure every illness known to man, or "oxygen supplements" likewise? Half of which is probably poison to your body if not just worthless. If the sup industry takes a hit and if some prices go up, I think we'll all survive. You will still be able to get your multi-vit/min and fish oil and stuff like that, lol. Oh, and whey

Frankly, I don't care. If the food and drug industry...things you put in your body...is subject to good manufacturing guidelines then so should the "dietary sup" industry. This whole claim that "we are already safer and our crap doesn't stink like the evil food and drug industries" to me, is not very convincing. The fact is, I have emailed many comps about their claims and asked for proof of quality. Lots and lots. Most of the time I have gotten a standard answer: "I have referred your question to management". And then nothing. Put your money where your mouth is.

I do want to point out, in all earnestness, that this is not me being on a tirade against sup companies. On the contrary, I have some standards that I trust explicitly. And more importantly it has been DIETARY SUP COMPS and other members of the industry that have for YEARS been urging the FDA to get to this and have voluntarily submitted proposals to that effect. Also, the article didn't mention that these smaller companies were given longer to comply. Less that 500 but more that twenty employees, 2009. Less than 20, 2010. I forget the exact dates.

I'll bet it helps companies anyway. It's doubtful that the FDA will enforce all of it with any kind of real effectiveness. There are lots of loopholes and gray areas. And it will just be something companies can hide behind saying "we have to be good, the FDA makes us".
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

Last edited by EricT; 02-04-2008 at 02:04 PM.
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