There are some good mass routines floating around. OVT, HST, DFHT and a few others (just listed ones I know for sure) but they have kind of faded into the sunset. I've got journals for almost every program I've done on here if you're interested. I guess I'm more interested in who thinks what will work for me at this stage.

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