Why do people continually say these things about fruit? If you want to talk about insulin then look at the glycemic values...still a good predicter of insulin effect and certainly for fruit. Most fruits have a medium to low glycemic index and a low glycemic load. Myth busted.

This is a misconception based on metabolic disruptions brought on by too much fructose but NOT because of natural amounts of dietary fructose found in balanced diets with fruit in them. Not at all. It is based on the overconsumption of fructose products ( sucrose table sugar, high fructose corn syrup) found is soft drinks, sweetened juices, etc. An overgeneralization done by people who don't understand the difference. It never had anything to do with insulin values for fruit OR frutose directly per se but with a concept of "metabolic syndrome" which rests squarely in the realm of the diabetic research realm.

BTW, most juices, concentrated, etc, do not have added sweeterners these days.

Fruit is good for you. Fit it into your diet like you would anything else. In my humble opinion I am seeing way too many grain products and not enough fruits and vegetables in most peoples idea of a "healthy" bodybuilding diet.

While it is true that we have a lot more fruit available to us then in "yesteryears" and that some of that fruit has more fructose in it than the ones that were available in the past, these metabolic epidmemics and other health problems have everything to do with the tons of sweeteners we use and not about a moderate amount of fruit in the diet. This is about a "high fructose" diet and while everthing should be eaten in moderation and variety some fruit is not going to make your diet "high fructose". We're talking quite large amounts of sugar in general.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.