Originally Posted by hrdgain81

right on the money Talo, You should be taking in around 15-20g protien, 10-20g carbo gain, and 3-4g creatine in your pre workout shake. Then double the protien, triple the carbs, and keep the creatine the same for the post workout shake (taken no more then 30 minutes after your workout).

Or atleast thats what I would do, you may need less protien or carbs depending on your stats, I'm 5'11" and 260lbs.

The amino fuel, I would take as Talo suggested, and perhaps in the morning on off days. there is a lot of good stuff in amino fuel I'm just not sure how cost effective it is.