i was trying to get a picture of them bu ti lost the link. when i bring my camera to the gym ill try to rememebr to take a picture. i just tried them because i never did them before. i dont know if it just hit a different area in my upperback or what but my dlets were sore the next day. so i figured i would just throw them in a little to see how they work out.

and i feel you on the volume on the 2 excersizes. i think i may just up the weights so i can do the volume you recommended. they ony have 100 pound dumbells in the gym and my arms are to short for barbell shrugs the bar would scrape against my you know what. i may be able to get away with doing them with a barbell if i shrug from a deadlift into a a shrug with a snatch grip. i will try it later on this week maybe.

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OH SHIT!!!! ITS THE COPS!!!!

You clearly don't know shit about fuck - KANE

You're not some sort of mystical creature that is immune to a training effect- KANE

I wish there was an entity that represented the term "injury" if it was, i would find it and beat the living shit out of it!!!!!

yes......i just type and press enter, i dont proofread i did enough of that in college. you know what i meant when i typed it anyway