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Old 04-15-2008, 12:55 PM
EricT EricT is offline
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You're not getting me. I've never ever used straps for deadlifting. Never. If I had stuck with over-under too much I wouldn't have trained my grip and I would not have been able to keep up. I've discussed this with you before and you just don't see what I'm saying.

I don't know why you think I mean something should hold people back. I don't let anything interfere with my ability to get my max deads. Double-overhand is simpley a way to train grip. The ideas is not to limit yourself but to train the grip in that way when you can and switch to the other grip when you can't. This will enable you to simply achieve more in the long run than you would if all you use is over-under. I've said like a hundred times to switch to the over-under for your heaviest deads when you need it. Just like people say to use straps when you need it.

But if I'm doing some singles, for instance, at above 90% I might need the over-under for the max, or for some of them, but not for all of them and it doesn't hold me back at all. I am just always training everything as much as possible.

I've tried both ways. I know good and well that I can use over-over to train my grip, progress very well, and always have that switch up at any given time to use so that I am not limited. And if I needed straps I would use them as well (which I have for rack deads at high volume).

Over-over is grip work but that doesn't mean it will hold you back...it will drive you forward. If you have never tried it why are you assuming it won't work. I know that the over-under is a rescue grip regardless of whether Rob wasn't able to pull it off that day. If you read it again you will also see this is what he has done in the past. Switched to an over-under when needed. He is just saying that he had trouble that one time...

So the answer to that imo would be some more supplemental grip work. It SOUNDS like it has worked for him so far though. Most people fail at 300 or so and that's pretty much it they must use straps.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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