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Old 04-15-2008, 02:46 PM
EricT EricT is offline
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Facepulls are an example of that pity, yes. But I was thinking of the prone lateral dumbell exercise. Facepulls also have you keeping your elbows up at the same level. This is a scapular stabibility exercise.

That's not perfect form. But here elbows aren't too far out, per se, it's her technique. She would have to get her setup nailed down. The problem here is the shoulders are not locked back. She is using scapular elevation as much or more than protraction. If she locked her shoulders down more, focused on proper scapula movement then here arms would come in more, I think. She would also then be able to achieve more thoracic extension and a tighter scapular pinch at the top while spreading her chest. Instead here upper torso travels toward the bar. Maybe some tightness in the pecs as well here.

But the fact is I see very few people who are able to do a good row off the floor. The lower back is dipping below parallel, they have no control and most should be using much ligher weights. the other problem is improper positioning and not knowing the difference between scapular elevation and scapular protraction.

Here elbows aren't flared out that much for a barbell row. I think she could probably bring them in but the point is kind of like when your do bench press. You don't flare out your elbows but the doesn't mean they are going to hug your body the whole time either. Some will have their elbows in a bit more but the point is you don't flare them out purposely away from the body. The grip width will play a role as well. With dumbell rows the elbows will normally be even closer in to the body since you are not limited as much by the path a straight bar forces you to choose.

Every row variation is the same basic technique.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

Last edited by EricT; 04-17-2008 at 02:18 PM. Reason: left out important things like verbs
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