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Originally Posted by shauny2times
ive had alot of exp with fat burners and there junk... they make you shed water so to appear thinner and they can and have givin me sleeping problems ...no good... and just expect to be about 35% weaker in the gym diet and a shit load of cardio is all u need trust me
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A "shit load of cardio" is great if you hate muscle. The diet part is extremely important. Most thermogenics are not diuretics (I can't think of any that are off hand). If you're caffeine sensitive, then they can be bad. Especially if they're taken in the afternoon or evening. Just taking a fat burner will not make you weaker. Thermogenics have been proven to work for many different people. Some respond better than others. They are most effective when coupled with cardio.
EDIT: Sorry 0311, didn't see that you were posting also.