Yep, some are. I forgot about carbomax.

The only thing about the dextrose, for those who are cheap, is that plain old bulk destrose is MUCH more cost efficient. Otherwise I'd just go with the gatorade powder or whatever as well.

I want someone to try ProteinFactory's "instant oat muscle" product. Who wants to be a guinea pig? On their wallet of course

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.