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Old 06-03-2008, 02:17 PM
EricT EricT is offline
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I didn't mean to imply that either on of use were jockeying. It's just that after a while it gets to the point where both people have presented there opinions and it gets pointless to keep arguing. And I don't mean arguing as fighting...just discussing to differing points of view. And I hate to always be writing novels to explain all my views and and look like a bore .

But when people make certain qualitative satements, like the one about lifting too heavy if you need more rest..that gets into a very complicated discussion...

So let me try to some it up with an equally short statement. If you can lift a certain weight at a certain volume and maintain good quality...then it ain't too heavy. Remember that not all programs are done with intensity cycling like a 5x5. If a rest allows you to lift more weight and get the volume you want...DO IT.

Even when you get into the tables that correlate rest periods with intensity or rep maximums you get something like this as "optimal":

<1 min: >13 RM
1-2 min: 11-13 RM
2-3 min: 8-10 RM
3-5 min: 5-7 RM
>5 min: <5 RM

Now I wouldn't go by that as more than a very general guideline because like Anuj was saying it's the exercise not just the reps. But it should not escape your notice where the general mass/strength thing lies. That is going to be, for all intents and purposes the 5 to 7 RM range...bascially the range that coincides with 5x5 training. Or even 4x6. Of course there are a some slightly lower intensities that can fall into this as well. But you're looking at 3 to 5 minutes basically in terms of "work sets".

My point before about strength/mass I've already made in the Strength and Hypertrophy thread so I won't paraphrase all that again here.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

Last edited by EricT; 06-03-2008 at 03:32 PM.
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