I'm not sure what was being said about soreness. Whether John meant that frequent soreness was a sign of overtraining or that it was an indicator of a good workout. I took it as the former.

In terms of training soreness is more an indicator of novelity than a good workout. It goes away as you go along unless you introduce something new whether a new exercise variation or a significantly increased training stimulus. If the latter is true than you are looking at a person who is not using a planned attack and progressive overload and thus a person who is not going to have a consistent stimulus due to lack of training effect or lack of recovery, consistent frequency...the list goes on an on.

I just learned the phrase "locus of control". It occurs to me that this is completely apt to the question of soreness. If you are focused on external control then soreness is an "external" manifestation of what is right or wrong. If you are internal focused then you are in control of your choices. While you never want to completely discount either way....with training you have to be mostly internal, imo, with just a smattering of external influence for guidance.

Since soreness indicates the novelity of a stimulus than obvioulsy it can be an indicator of a positive change. Of course it could also be a negative change. You need more than soreness to know...you need knowledge of programming and effective, healthy, balanced exercise choice. If I change my ROM on, say, bulgarian squats...maybe increase my stride....I can get sore compared to last time. But that does not indicate whether I have increased my ROM in a 'good' way or whether I have worked into a vulnerable and unhealthy range in terms of strength/flexibility. Soreness in itself certainly cannot tell me this. I have to know what I'm doing.

But if you are sore all the time no matter what that is ONE possible symptom of overtraining or at least over-reaching....among a host of other symptoms.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.