Probably could've used some tact in the response. Quoting someone's response saying it's rubbish will only lead us down one path. I'm sure John must've felt validated in his post seeing as so many people have told him that. And to be honest, I thought he was talking about overtraining, not an effective workout indicator. Now, if you took all that time from asking him to come up with finding medical articles himself to briefly explaining why he's wrong, then I'm sure he'd learn something out of this forum other than to keep his advice to himself.

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