wolf...how many 40 year olds do you know that workout that are that big or even look that good that are ALL NATURAL (meaning no steroids)...the dudes office is full of his contest trophies (a majority of them are 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place trophies) so how can he not be and example of a bodybuilder...o well you can say what you please but this will be the last time i will even dignify your post with a response..