hhahah I had a professor in college who was an augustinian monk for 30 years. he told me "man is perfect, because god, the creator is perfect" ...

I told him "Our perfection comes from our imprefection"

he said my logic was flawed, I told him his faith was ... but i digress ... we are way off topic, back to pec development.

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I don't do this for my family, my friends, women, accolades, pride, or ego. I do it for me and no one else, its just part of who I am.