I'll do my best to answer all of your questions, but if I miss any please let me know.

Dave, news paper proof is a good idea, we will have to do that. the judging will be done by both wieght and measurements. We are not going to go by bodyfat because it wouldnt be fair. When you see our stats you'll understand, also at this point I dont believe Jeff is concerned with muslce loss either. I'll let him speak to that when he gets his ass on here and posts.

Pity and everyone, I know there could be some biasing, since ya'll love me so much hahhaa. But try to keep it fair, besides, the numbers wont lie!

Slayer, I'm going to do a full write up on the diet I plan to use when I have more time this weekend. in the mean time, its based off of what many have been doing here. BWx15 for maint cals, then I'm going to use a small deficit (200-300 cals), and drop it little by little as I lose. macros will be in the 50/25/25 range for p/f/c.

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