OH, yeah, while you guys were posting I edited my post but I agree. I needed to read back as I didn't realize that this was all about carbs in shake form IMMEDIATELY prior. Some people swear that you need to do cardio FASTED. Or at least no carbs for the meal proceeding (one hour before or whatever) and I wouldn't recommend that. But I don't see too much point in taking in "shake carbs" right before.

The rest was just info to read.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.