Just think about having your elbows in round about 30 degrees. So I guess if you considered where your elbows are now 0 degrees... See if I can get a vid of someone doing that. It's called the "scapular plane".
This is actually, given a choice, the way many would naturally place the dumbells. You can think about it in day to day function. If you were going to put a heavy box up on an overhead shelf, would you bring your arms out to to the side..90 degrees?
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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