you have got to be kidding ... how does debating the bodies ability to utilize protien turn in to this kind of b.s.

Lets put an end to the myth right now ... My body can utilize between 16 and 20g of protien at any empty stomach time. I know this because every morning for the last two months i would take in 36g of designer whey first thing. then within an hour I am shitting my brains out. I've since dropped it to 16g first thing, and now i can go almost till lunch before hitting the head.

you can write all the papers you want, do all the reseach in the world, but I'll stick to my body reactions, and continue to utilize a suedo scientific method when it comes to my training and nutrition.

and for future debates, lets try not to take it too serious guys, its a bodybuilding forum, not the U.N. ... nuff said.

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