I'm assuming that by waist you mean similar to where guy's where their pants so it's fairly low which led me to assume not that your back is exactly heavily rounded but, yeah, like you just said. But I don't want to go by me, because I have a lot of mobility and stability in my back so if I saw a vid.
I know that I am going to cross purposes to some WSB practices here. Sorry, can't help that
. Gotta say what I think is right.
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What do you mean by this E? I was just hitting them cos I know (well I think I know ) that my back strength might be holding me back from a bigger squat and pull) Not cos Louie or Tate think I should be doing them.LOL
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I gotcha and I wasn't saying don't do them. I do them. In fact it's really one of the only GM I do. I.E. i'd do chain suspended if I had the means but....
I say do them with caution.
Yes, they can help with your pulling. For sure. But, imho, it is still a HIP dominant movement. So when people start talking about "strengthening my back" it just makes me want to point that out. Your back is being strengthened by everything you do but your back is NOT a primary mover. You hips are (and that is assuming more or less knee extension depending on the exercise of course).
Assuming that you are not using your back as a primary mover and you agree with me then the thing about mobility versus stability is a moot point. But I will explain what I meant by that.
Basically what you are going to have, for most people is a lack of mobilty in the hips and a lack of stability in the lumbar.
A lot of times when people's backs are rounding out in various exercises then the AUTOMATIC thing is "strengthen your back". But what they mean is do flexion extension moves with the lower back to strengthen it.
Which DOES NOT solve a rounding back problem. Because you are promoting mobility in the back and active flexion strength (at the cost of some very unhappy discs) but you are not promoting stability in the core. Why?
What is stability? Stability is RESISTING movement, not causing it.
And mobility is the ability to perform a certain movement..at a certain joint. (This is all "in a nutshell").
So if you lack MOBILITY in the hips (and ankles) and STABILITY in the core (read the "trunk" which includes the lower back and the whole thing) than you mobile back TAKES OVER for the ROM that your un-mobile hips lack. Thus back rounding.
So what I was getting I'm getting at is if you continue to use your back to initiate movement instead of to avoid it there is no way that can lead to a more stabile back and thus no way that can cure back rounding. And even if you don't have a big problem with these issues BUT you are continually working to PROMOTE these things...than using flexion of the spine is working to cross purposes.
So not that you are using flexion..just explaining what I meant. Which is a complicated way of saying, pretty much what Pity said