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Old 11-06-2008, 06:23 PM
EricT EricT is offline
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Since just about everytime someone brings up deloading or overtraining the term "CNS" comes up, I cannot harp on this enough.

I think I may have posted this all before but what the heck:

I’ve been talking about “cns instensive” training. I used this term simply to separate out the more maximal strength training from “other” training. A few points need to be made on all that:

1.Everything you do affects your CNS to some degree. Just lesser intensities affect if less, but speed of movement, etc…and ANYTHING is at play here.

2.
The whole CNS thing and CNS fatigue has gotten ridiculous and has been blown way out of proportion. I have spoken of the ridiculousness of the average person doing average training trying to separate out “CNS fatigue”…you can’t hardly do it for reasons I’ve mentioned.

3.
EVERYTHING you read you have to consider that persons BOX. What applies to them and their trainees does not necessarily apply to you. This is the number one biggest mistake people make…reading some new thing and turning it into their bible.

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Some of this over-reaction to CNS stuff has been do to post failure and post post failure training. Not the same as all maximal strength training. The body is not THAT damn fragile.

5.
Usually when big name guys talk about CNS fatigue they are referring to the max effort method.

It is beyond me why people would think that maximal strength training only means max effort method. Sure you may want to limit max effort to non-consecutive days, or only two days at the beginning, or what have you…but all maximal strength training does not have to be max effort and even though this whole CNS thing has been blown out of proportion see number one about intensity.

6.
Keep in mind that with coaches training athletes they may be dong a whole lot more “cns intensive” stuff than you or me. Besides heavy squats and OL lifts, there may be plyos, sprints, all sort of stuff that is high intensity in nature.

7.
What applies to some guy nearing his genetic level in strength probably doesn’t apply to most of us.

8.
There are SO many factors that can affect your ability to lift on any given day it is ridiculous to think you can factor out one single thing. People make a big thing about about CNS burnout or desensitization but in experimentation you find that it is actually VERY hard to really bring this about.

9.
When researchers do try to bring this about they use, of course ridiculous methods. For instance having a training group do 1RM training every single day for two or three weeks. This is because they are not interested in how to regulate it they are monitoring the body for ways to DETECT it…and finding that this is hard to do. This doesn’t apply to us.

10.
Given all that the best thing to do is react to WHAT HAPPENS not what you THINK will happen. This is my whole problem with so many “methods”. They are based on assumptions. And we know what assumptions do…

11.
It is reasonable to be cautious and most people will take steps to ensure they don’t train to the point they start to lose a significant amount of ability. But this doesn’t mean you have to treat your body like it is made of…I don’t know…something really fragile. Crystal?
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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