im 6'3" and overweight (complete bullshit becuase if u saw me in person youd say i wasnt) but over like 2 months of using pre and post workout supplements,i can visually see a difference in size, but my weight just keeps going higher.i was at about 215 around 6'1" at the end of summer in 08' and i just been liftin and yea.so i do try but theres no weight loss.and yes i know muscle weighs more than fat lol