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Originally Posted by _Wolf_
I am well aware of the fact that it takes time to get form down. BUT, you also have to look at results. If you've spent 3-4 months trying to get form down and you STILL haven't gotten it down right, there IS a problem. EVERYTHING I have learnt has been self taught - all I have had to refer to are articles and stuff Eric has handed down to me. But in actually LEARNING the lifts I have had to do it on my own. I have also trained quite a few people and if you follow my journal you'll notice I put a lot of videos of other guys doing things like OVerhead Squats or heavy benches or deadlifts who train with/under me.
The deadlift is not that complicated.
1.) You don't squat the bar up. You pull it.
2.) You need to use leg drive otherwise you will be at a mechanical disadvantage. I am not going to get into what a proper deadlift is but there is a middle ground between using only leg drive and using none. You need to stick to the middle ground to get the best of both worlds.
3.) Your back needs to be straight with your shoulder blades retracted. This the STARTING point of a good set-up.
4.) Once you got your feet at a good distance, your shoulders retracted, your shoulders ahead of the bar, lower back arched, abs tight and flexed, getting your ass at the right point is mostly natural.
This is NOT that hard to do. It's like a 5 step process:
1.) Shoulder blades retracted
2.) Decent foot stance (buy new shoes, doug because those shoes SUCK BALLS to deadlift in)
3.) Lower back arched
4.) Abs tight
5.) You bend down, grab the bar and your butt WILL fall into place.
The Deadlift is a PULL not a squat.
And yes, 0:41 was the right position to start at. But the shoes need to go. You MUST use flat shoes.
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no disrespect intended and i agree the deadlift is not that complicated but to say that everyone should have their form down in 3-4 months is ludicrous. Some of us have trained for years and years and we're still improving points on our lifts. I'd bet the farm you didnt have all your lifts perfect in so short a time either but i could be wrong. i dont think Doug would have nearly as much of a problem with this lift if he had a good on the spot coach, but he doesnt. some people pick this shit up faster than others do. I really feel that his biggest problem is where his shoulders are in relation to the bar, the rest is not too bad. It may end up that the deadlift is just not for him but he's getting close and i see no reason to write him off as a lost cause at this point. hell there are tons of vids on youtube of people deadlifting 1,000 times worse than him and with waaaaaaaay too much weight.
anyway your points are valid and yes i agree the squishy shoes should go!
