I know what you mean Eric. I've noticed there are trends among supps, online, in person, everywhere in the weights-sports. You guys remember cinnamon, and citruline? Haven't heard about them in a while. I have noticed better gains since I have started eating more slower-digesting proteins before bedtime. Extraordinary? No. An aid, maybe. I like to venture out, but I know where you're coming from, E. What about Compressed Casein Tablets
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