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Old 06-10-2009, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Kinryoku View Post

I cannot overtrain anymore because I never train with real maximum weight my time under tension is never more than 2-3 seconds depending of the exercise. MAX Force - MIN Fatigue. That's it. If you lift a maximum weight you'll overtrain because your neuromuscular system must try to maintain a maximum force for 2-3x more Time (due to the sticking point). You'll use much more nervous energy for the same stimulation.
That's not correct.

I'll pick at the obvious statements.

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If you lift a maximum weight you'll overtrain because your neuromuscular system must try to maintain a maximum force for 2-3x more Time (due to the sticking point)
What about a maximal lift without a sticking point? Just because its a max weight doesn't mean there is a sticking point and it doesn't mean you have to struggle through a sticking point.

Your "neuromuscular system" is not made of glass. Yes, an all out effort with some struggling will tax it more than a 'clean' maximal lift but hitting a sticking point or grinding out a rep that lasts 10 seconds is not going to put you into an overtrained state. Especially if you're only doing 1 or 2 reps.

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You'll use much more nervous energy for the same stimulation.
'Nervous energy' doesn't make any sense. I'm assuming you're talking about some kind of training effect and neural fatigue. A single at 90% or a single at 98% definitely do not create the same stimulus. Even 93% and 95% are different. You factor in the amount of effort it takes at those higher percentages and the amount of fatigue and you've got 2 different animals. That's why a failed single rep is sometimes counted as 2.

Failure or extended reps with great amounts of effort are not bad things. Doing them constantly is, occasionally its even a good thing.



I didn't say this before but the main thing I object to in this training is the over-analysis of the fatigue aspect. Fatigue is important but it is just one small piece and by concentrating on that one small thing you overlook the big picture. You're so over-conscious of avoiding overtraining that you're not even training enough to get a decent training effect.

If you train smart you can manage fatigue by manipulating volume. As long as you give yourself a period to dissipate fatigue it cannot accumulate to the point of overtraining. That period can even be a single workout, it does not have to be a full deload period. The only other thing you have to worry about is not training to failure every other rep. Keep those two things in check and avoiding overtraining is not a problem at all.
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