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Old 12-28-2009, 02:46 PM
EricT EricT is offline
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It's interesting that it harped on the vertical jumps of people who are reportedly very 'strong' in terms of the quick lifts or any lifts, even squats.

If you take a lot of those jump heights and average them out, I am pretty sure you will come up with something that is around "average" for an NBA player...not many of whom can post big numbers on a clean.

What you can get from that is those people are strong, or fast, or powerful, or have good lifts. And that they have good jumps. But that is correlation, not causation.

You can assume that their jumps are better than they would have been untrained. But you cannot assume the "best" way to increase your vertical jump is with squats and powercleans.

In terms of very good vertical jumps...it's not THAT impressive. There are people who have posted 50 to 60 inches if not more.

Beyond that though I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you looking to be like any one those people in the article, increase your vertical jump or whatever? Or are you just looking for something to convince you to do powercleans?

If you want to do them do them. And you will for sure get better at powercleans and be more powerful and have better torso control, etc. Whether you vertical jump will become extraordinary I cannot say

This whole thing is always being used in strength training. It's about the composition of training and it's parts.

It's like saying Carl Lewis trained to be very fast. Part of his training was squats. Therefore squats have the virtue of making you fast. It's like saying that water emits light because you see the sun reflecting off of it.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

Last edited by EricT; 12-28-2009 at 04:03 PM. Reason: added part about composition of training.
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