^^ I'll bet you he did.

That alchool either causes fat storage or that alchohol caloires are mostly stored as fat has been replaced with the new theory that alcohol cause a short term reduction in the amount of fat burned as fuel.

What alchol does or doesn't do metabolically at any one time is not direct evidence for what will happen in terms of an entire weightloss regimen, nutrition plan.

The point ROSS was trying to make is that people don't stop drinking beer and replace all the calories with sundaes. Any effect that stopping or reducing alcohol has on weightloss is nothing more than a supposition. The only thing you can say for sure is that you are taking in less calories overall...and what's more less empty calories.

I'm sure somebody will quote Lyle Macdonald to me, or some other PubMed scourer. Fatloss has become nothing more than a collection of facts, webernet wise. It's like trivial pursuit, lol.

The question is not whether the little facts are correct but whether they really matter in the big picture.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.