@Pirate: you´re sureley right, that the supps are not an elixir, but the stack i proposed, especially bcaa and glutamine, will prevent catabolism while cutting and may also help to gain a bit. when
on a bulk i also don´t take glutamine and bcaas, cuz i´m eating a lot of carbs which insures me that none of my protein will be burned carb-like. but when on diet bcaa and glutamine will be really against catabolism.