I wasn't talking about you in that last post and I wasn't accusing you.

BTW, you said snatches, not dumbbel snatches. DB snatches are easier to get than barbell snatches and most dumbbell versions of fast lifts are a bit easier simply because of the added freedom you get.

But you recommended them for conditioning and my point was that it's a bit complicated solely for that purpose...crossfit aside, lol. And I would be worried for Anuj's shoulders, especially since he's probably go too heavy, not keep the db in tight enough or something and end up with a dislocation.

I understand that you like them.

As far as my complaints about the cues you need to have a clear vision of what a verbal cue is supposed to accomplish. It's not just some shit to say to replace some other shit you could say.

If you don't want people to relax and get too lazy the best way to say that is just say it. So if that is what "attack the zipper" means it is just trying to sound all clever but does not impart clear instruction.

It sounds to me like it is telling people to try to shove they're arms into their groins. Doing that will tend to cause the body to go into flexion. Same thing with "shoving the weight back". People will shove their ARMS back and the same result. I promotes flexion.

The idea may be to promote more stretch. You don't need it. You are storing up tons of energy on the back swing you just need to reverse efficiently.

Whether you've read anything about swings, my general point still stands. Just because I reacted to your post doesn't mean my rant wasn't about a general trend. Swings are old news and MR coining "attack the zipper" doesn't make them new. But I guarantee I could have posted another explanation of them a month before and it still wouldn't matter.

Look, lots of these guys I'm responsible for introducing their names onto this board. But when I did that it was because they said certain things that I thought were instructive. You still have to give some critical thought to everything everybody says and not just assume that every thing that drops out of their mouth is gold. So I gave it some critical thought and I gave you my reaction.

What you do is up to you. I'm just saying that I'm going to react naturally to something no matter WHO originally said it. Matter of fact I just told Jesus he was full of shit. Then we got high.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.