^^ Maybe you should read his post first and notice that he is trying to lose weight.

I love how everyone who assumes someone wants to bulk *must* eat 4000+cals per day. It's just not the case. I can gain weight at a touch over 3000 and at 4000 I would gain more but a lot would be fat as well.

If you are 250lb mostly muscle then yes, 4000+ is probably right for you.... but for someone who is 150lb and lean or 200lb and fat.... well it will be different for them... it's different for everyone!!!

Sorry for my rant.

IW