This is so silly...
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Originally Posted by EKnight
First off, reread the title of the thread- it's not a "why" question, but clearly asks if they are for chest, back, or both.
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Why is THE question of all questions. To be able to answer that question anyone would need to know why the exercise affects the muscle group like it does.
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I took the same anatomy everybody else took (unless the human body has recently changed) and I disagree with Eric's assessment of the role that the pecs play in pullovers. Just because he said it, and he has three thousand posts, doesn't mean his word is that of God Almighty.
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First off, I am God.
Secondly: Eric's assessment was based on practical experience. Your opinion was based off an anatomy class.
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The condescending way he responded was not helping anyone learn anything, which can be inferred by the way he buffered it with his "didn't want to be a smart akeck" edit.
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How the heck is Eric condescending? He was listing his thoughts lol...
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I might be new to this forum, but I'm not new to training people or addressing these kinds of questions.
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your conduct doesn't prove this.
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The average person has no interest in the importance of the glenohumeral joint. They want to know- as did the OP- if pullovers are back, chest, or both.
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Well, you should be aware that antagonistic muscles work together in every movement. For example: you cannot say that squats are strictly a hamstring exercise. They work the whole leg. Same with Deadlifts. And similarly, pullovers hit all the muscles involved in the movement: shoulders, rib cage, traps, triceps, etc. There is no way to isolate this to JUST one muscle group.
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If the OP was unable to figure that out on his own, and he came here to ask about it, how useful is an answer that he probably won't understand? Learn to read your audience. The reason I oversimplified my response was to purposefully NOT confuse him with the entire anatomy of the shoulder joint.
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But your answer was wrong. Oversimplifying the answer didn't change its correctness lol..
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How helpful is it to a newcomer when they ask a question to say, "I don't believe there are chest exercises." How confusing is that? How dos that help anybody learn anything. Or is it because Eric said it, it must be true? Funny, the ACSM would disagree.
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I would trust Eric over ACSM any day. Eric's made a lot of people sturdy strong. End of story.