no, its just that we all believe that your bullshitting us and yahoo groups have a horrible reputation with the members here. how about you give us a "Sample" and bring 15 of your most knowledgable members from your groups...(if this is ok with the rest of the forum that is) if we are impressed then maybe we will be willing to believe you. no offense but it seems to me that we are hearing alot of talk and no real results, if you train all of these people through Email why not help out with some of the questions posted here, show everyone what you know. and your constant "please feel bad for me lines like" youll leave us if we say arent going to work...we arent just going to feel bad for you, and start kissing your ass. its obvious that everyone makes spelling mistakes also, but once again if your going to tell us all about all of these people that you help out daily...why not help out some people here and add some posts to your total of 7?