311, I'm with you on the juice thing. Especially given the high osmality of a pure dextrose solution. I think the dextrose/maltodextrin solves this problem and works very well, while also addressing the problem of a premature insuling spike.

But they both come down to pure glucose in the bloodstream and it's hard to know how much is enough. Fruit juice is easier to manage in this respect.

Still, just plain dextrose will produce results. Even if it gives you the runs.

I personally don't use any sugar in my creatine formula. I get what seems to be very quick absorption seeing that my muscles blow up to an almost painful extent somewhere around 20-30 minutes later. I can't "prove there's creatine in them, but there's definitely water, so you do the math.

You guys are probably going to say that there's no real scientific evidence to support it (although I've seen some stuff) and that I am full of crap. It may not work for everbody but it seems to be working for me.

Glutamine + Creatine in a 2:1 ratio. Two hundred or more miligrams Alpha Lipoic Acid. Lots of water.

ALA + acid I know. But creatine, according to my research, has been shown to be fairly stable in weak acids. (the acids in orange juice would be worse) and this mixture would leave the stomach fairly quickly.

I know a lot of people are down on glutamine. It's not very bioavailable, so on, and so forth. I think it works in this combination, even without the ALA (which seems to work better).

Most of the proteins we eat have bad bioavailibility, after all.