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Advice needed
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01-26-2012, 09:00 AM
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Rank: Light Heavyweight
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Saskatoon, Sk, Canada
Posts: 3,272
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You can build A LOT of strength and muscle naturally still. A 200lb bench is easily attainable to a natural lifter. A 300lb bench is attainable with some focus and more hard work to a natty lifter. Many natty lifters won't get to 400lb but it is possible with extreme dedication.
What I'm saying is your training regimen probably needs help, your diet and supplementation problem needs help, and you probably don't sleep enough.
Subjecting your body to those types of risks before optimising *everything* and seeing where you can go naturally seems silly to me.
IW
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01-26-2012, 09:47 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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I am fine for sleeping I get at least 10 hours a day. I am trying hard with diet but could b better money is tight I have 3 demanding kids I am getting about 170g protein a day & I'm using maximuscle progain extreme.
As for working out 3/4 days a week using bulking method I got online but I have been stuck last month can't seem to increase no more.
Example..
Bench light weight 20 reps
Increase 15 reps
Increase 8 reps
Increase to 135lb 6 reps but sometimes I can't do the 6 my shoulders give up.
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01-26-2012, 03:07 PM
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Rank: Member
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Chico, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iron_worker
Many natty lifters won't get to 400lb but it is possible with extreme dedication.
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Yeah, my buddy benches 450 all natural. It is pretty rare though.
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01-26-2012, 04:40 PM
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Rank: Light Heavyweight
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Location: Saskatoon, Sk, Canada
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If money is tight why would you even be thinking about a cycle? Feed your kids!
IW
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02-26-2012, 08:41 AM
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I agree with iron_worker, If money is tight, feed the kids.
You are training for 6 months and you want juice, Very wrong, learn to train your body, feed it, train your mind you will see Very good results.
Trust me, leave the juice for last.
The first time i used i was working out about 5 years.
You sleep too much ihihi.
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02-28-2012, 11:23 AM
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After a better reading, maybe what you are saying is that, you put your kids first (demanding kids), and i think thats great, but the few money you have left you like to buy some anabolic. If so i'm sorry for the comment (feed the kids).
But i still stand when i say, EAT GOOD, HARD TRAIN, INTENSE, you will have great results.
It's very important to learn how your body react, and how far can he go before using anabolic.
I would be suprise, what good food, good diet, good sleep, and intense training can do for you.
Try this way first, then when you get to the point you can't grow because you reach your genetic limit, then you should use the juice if you want to grow more, if not, keep doing what you wore doing :P
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03-03-2012, 06:18 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Iowa
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Give me a break tallpaul if you can't eat good then why the hell would ya wanna do roids, that would be like going to the strippers with no money, WHY THE HELL WOULD YA!!
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03-04-2012, 05:46 PM
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It's always crossed my mind... I know a lot of people on it. To each their own right. Doesn't phase me in the slightest.
My opinion, you could probably still gain a lot of size and strength naturally and keep on thinking about doing a cycle. Keep reading and researching what you want to do before you jump into things. A lot of money, time, and effort will go into it.
I use to be skinny as well, still not huge, but a very muscular athletic physique. Can bench 285 and squat 365. Done great and still doing great with eating properly and hitting the weights as hard as I can.
Hope you decide what works best for you bro!
All the best.
cheers.
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