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TallPaul 01-25-2012 09:37 AM

Advice needed
My first post so hello all.
I have been very skinny all my life so I decided to do something about it 6 months ago. In the 6 months I have noticed a big difference in my body & after a lot of research I feel I'm ready for a course of steroids.

I'm 33 6"3 180lbs
I could only bench 85lbs 6 months ago now I'm on 135lbs. My gole is to weigh 200lbs or over & bench 200lbs.

I found a website that doesn't seem to be a scam but after reading the rules I don't think i can post the link. Any advice on what a beginner should start out on & any info on how to spot a scam website would be much appreciated.

FitnessFreek 01-25-2012 12:25 PM

6 months and you are ready to juice huh...good one.

TallPaul 01-25-2012 01:34 PM

I'm just trying to understand what to use & get as much info as I can. I'm not about to order as soon as i can I'll probably wait another 6 months. For now knolage is key I wud not rush into getting scamed online.

Just out of interest what is the difference in starting them after 6 month or after 2 years.

iron_worker 01-26-2012 10:00 AM

You can build A LOT of strength and muscle naturally still. A 200lb bench is easily attainable to a natural lifter. A 300lb bench is attainable with some focus and more hard work to a natty lifter. Many natty lifters won't get to 400lb but it is possible with extreme dedication.

What I'm saying is your training regimen probably needs help, your diet and supplementation problem needs help, and you probably don't sleep enough.

Subjecting your body to those types of risks before optimising *everything* and seeing where you can go naturally seems silly to me.


TallPaul 01-26-2012 10:47 AM

I am fine for sleeping I get at least 10 hours a day. I am trying hard with diet but could b better money is tight I have 3 demanding kids I am getting about 170g protein a day & I'm using maximuscle progain extreme.
As for working out 3/4 days a week using bulking method I got online but I have been stuck last month can't seem to increase no more.


Bench light weight 20 reps
Increase 15 reps
Increase 8 reps
Increase to 135lb 6 reps but sometimes I can't do the 6 my shoulders give up.

FitnessFreek 01-26-2012 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by iron_worker (Post 91984)
Many natty lifters won't get to 400lb but it is possible with extreme dedication.

Yeah, my buddy benches 450 all natural. It is pretty rare though.

iron_worker 01-26-2012 05:40 PM

If money is tight why would you even be thinking about a cycle? Feed your kids!


yuris 02-26-2012 09:41 AM

I agree with iron_worker, If money is tight, feed the kids.

You are training for 6 months and you want juice, Very wrong, learn to train your body, feed it, train your mind you will see Very good results.
Trust me, leave the juice for last.
The first time i used i was working out about 5 years.
You sleep too much ihihi.

yuris 02-28-2012 12:23 PM

After a better reading, maybe what you are saying is that, you put your kids first (demanding kids), and i think thats great, but the few money you have left you like to buy some anabolic. If so i'm sorry for the comment (feed the kids).

But i still stand when i say, EAT GOOD, HARD TRAIN, INTENSE, you will have great results.
It's very important to learn how your body react, and how far can he go before using anabolic.
I would be suprise, what good food, good diet, good sleep, and intense training can do for you.
Try this way first, then when you get to the point you can't grow because you reach your genetic limit, then you should use the juice if you want to grow more, if not, keep doing what you wore doing :P

Warrior_5B 03-03-2012 07:18 PM

Give me a break tallpaul if you can't eat good then why the hell would ya wanna do roids, that would be like going to the strippers with no money, WHY THE HELL WOULD YA!!

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