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Old 05-19-2010, 08:36 AM
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From other people ive trained with, logs ive read etc dont think it would be effective enough for possible sides, though obviously cheaper.

May 19th 2010

seated press reverse grip upto 60kg x 8,8,6
bench press reverse grip upto 100kg x 6,5,4 60kg x 20
incline bench press reverse grip 50kg 2 x 8
z lockouts (from forehead) 60kg 2 x 6
close grip floor press upto 100kg x 3
dumbbell laterals 12kg 3 x 12
cable lateral drop set each arm
12kg dumbbell flys x 15 superset with reverse grip pushdowns x 15 for 2 sets
lying cable flys superset with pushdowns x drop set
25kg blockweight pinch grip'd for time for 3 sets


Pretty happy with this sesh, considering i got 4 reps with 60kg on seated press last time, 100kg wasn't too heavy on bench an also the floor press (done probably with pause at bottom etc) was pretty easy even though my tri's were pretty fd by then

Going to another gym in a bit
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:19 PM
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decline crunches bodyweight, 5kg, 10kg, 15kg x 12
ab machine stack x 15,12,10
dumbbell side bends 30kg,45kg, 55kg x 10 each side

hammer strength row 2 plates a side x 20 both arms, 4 plates x 12 each arm, 5 plates x 6 each arm
t-bar row machine upto 50kg x 8 drop 40kg x 6
one arm dumbbell row upto 75kg x 6 each arm
upper back machine upto stack x 10
hammer strength pulldown 3 plates a side x 12
dumbbell shrugs 30kg x 15, 55kg x 15, 65kg x 12

alternate hammer curls upto 25kg x 7 each arm
alternate dumbbell curls upto 20kg x 7 each arm
straight bar curl machine 2 x 10
reverse curl thumb over grip x 20 superset with seated wrist curls x 20 for 2 sets

seated calf raises 1,2 plates x 12
standing calf raises 2 x 12

10 minutes treadmil at 10.0


again i think everything felt fairly strong here, cant recall of hammer curling 25k bells strict like that before - the 10 minutes running was easy too
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:38 AM
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May 24th 2010

Waist was 33 1/2in this morning.

Been in birmingham for the body power expo, met a bunch of guys ive only seen on tv or in dvd's an magazines - jay stood up signing autographs for 2 whole days straight. Terry hollands is somehow even bigger than you would think, an zack kahn has the biggest arms ive ever seen. Didnt get to train at dorian yates temple gym as plan'd since dorian was at the expo an gym was shut (didnt think of that!).

Didnt do much myself at the expo, did a feat with a dumbbell, was 58kg, 2.5in handle, oversized globes etc had to get it over your head using one hand, then if you could bend down an pick a tenner up off the floor while keeping the bell at arms length you could keep it. I dont know if any others did it after me but until i did it only jimmy marku (uks strongest man) had managed it. Other than that i just bent a nail an got a bit of air under the mellenium dumbbell with either hand (might be the youngest to do this but not a big deal as i wasn't close to fully deadlifting it).

6in deficient deadlift
- 60kg x 8
>add doubled bands<
- 60kg, 90kg, 110kg x 3
- 125kg, 140kg x 1

stiff leg deadlift
- 140kg x 6
- 180kg x 10

bottom up back squat upto 160kg x 1

power jerk upto 95kg x 2
seated reverse grip press upto 60kg x 6
bench press reverse grip upto 110kg x 2
close grip floor press upto 110kg x 2


Power jerk wasnt heavy was just too hard to rack an unrack with the setup, but my right tricep is fucked even though pressing the dumbbell was really easy, must have been the crowd etc deads were done with slight touch an go, last dead stop. Dosage is upto 60mg now.

Training again later.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:05 PM
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dont think i got enough carbs in me before this session, first time i can think of having hunger pains since being on var, was starving towards the end of the sesh

decline crunches
- bodyweight, 10kg, 15kg behind neck x 12
dumbbell side bends upto 75kg x 6/6

front squat olympic grip upto 102kg x 13-14, 122kg x 7
karlsen squat upto 160kg x 8
seated squat machine upto 300kg x 6
lying leg curls upto 11 plates x 10, drop 6 plates x 6

crucifix hold upto 20kg dumbbells x 5 seconds (heh), 17.5kg x 10 seconds, 15kg x 30 seconds / raises 10kg x 10
dumbbell laterals 10kg, 12.5kg, 15kg x 10 (some assistence on the last few)

barbell rows reverse grip
- 62kg x 15, 102kg x 5 (heh), drop 62kg x 7
one arm dumbbell rows upto 75kg x 8/7
dumbbell shrugs upto 80kg x 12


felt strongish on everything expect pressing today, but that will be because of the tricep
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Old 05-28-2010, 04:44 AM
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May 26th 2010

dumbbell laterals upto 40lbs x 8 plus two drops
seated press reverse grip upto 50kg 3 x 10
bench press reverse grip upto 110kg x 1 then 80kg x 15 or so reg grip medium/close/wide
floor press medium grip 80kg, 90kg x 10
seated z lockouts 60kg, 70kg x 12 (bit higher than last time)
dumbbell flys upto 45lbs x 12 plus one drop
ez curls 3 x reps (12.5kg each side)
alternate hammer curls upto 60lbs x 5/5
seated preacher curls x 12
dips x 30,20
tricep pushdowns regular grip x 10 then reverse grip x 8 for 2 sets


was hitting pins on reverse grip bench but think it's starting to hurt my right shoulder, this may just be because of the wide grip as it feels exactly the same as when i do wide grip bench for a while - will change back to regular grip
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Old 05-28-2010, 04:59 AM
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May 28th 2010

bodyweight last night after carbing up was 236lbs, waist this morning was 34 1/4in

After seeing how big all the guys were at the expo it made me realise just how much smaller i am so gives me more motivation to keep eating (im hating eating right now) - todays is..

- oats in skimmed milk
- 1lb beef, spinach, onions
- chicken, brown rice, onions, green beans
- protein shake, fruit and nut cereal bar
- 1lb beef, white rice, spinach, onions
- chicken, onions, broccoli, green beans
- chicken, onions, broccoli, green beans

basically 1kg of chicken, 1lb of beef plus protein shake (would have another in morning usually but ran out) for the protein - 550+g total

Also my sex drive is way down, which i knew would most likely happen, i just wanted to know for sure as some people have not noticed a difference - ive been taking tribuls and avena sativa for the past 2 days, cant seem to find info on when these are supposed to take effect? have not really noticed any difference as yet

Training later
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 2kong3 View Post
May 28th 2010

bodyweight last night after carbing up was 236lbs, waist this morning was 34 1/4in

After seeing how big all the guys were at the expo it made me realise just how much smaller i am so gives me more motivation to keep eating (im hating eating right now) - todays is..

- oats in skimmed milk
- 1lb beef, spinach, onions
- chicken, brown rice, onions, green beans
- protein shake, fruit and nut cereal bar
- 1lb beef, white rice, spinach, onions
- chicken, onions, broccoli, green beans
- chicken, onions, broccoli, green beans

basically 1kg of chicken, 1lb of beef plus protein shake (would have another in morning usually but ran out) for the protein - 550+g total

Also my sex drive is way down, which i knew would most likely happen, i just wanted to know for sure as some people have not noticed a difference - ive been taking tribuls and avena sativa for the past 2 days, cant seem to find info on when these are supposed to take effect? have not really noticed any difference as yet

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That will have something to do with the fact that your body has stopped producing testosterone....

What is a vital component needed to build new muscle? Testosterone....
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:22 PM
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yeh, hopefully the tribulas will sort that, ive found mixed responses out there so i didnt want to take anything off the bat - all seem to have good results with var only but my weight is definately saying im not gaining muscle
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But Matt, he didn't want to deal with the sides from a low dose of test like...increased sex drive, increased protein synthesis, and increased muscle growth. ;-)
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:47 PM
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power cleans upto 105kg x 2 (easy)
deadlifts upto 205kg x 3 (this was too hard, my deadlift SUCKS right now)
below knee rack pulls upto 225kg x 3
front squat olympic grip upto 180kg x 2 with wraps, 100kg x 15 no wraps (wrist hell)
lying leg curls drop set
leg extension drop set
bent over rows reverse grip 85kg 2 x 12
v-grip pulldown 3 sets reps
one arm dumbbell row 55kg x 12/12
hammer curls upto 50lbs x reps
preacher machine 3 drop set
dumbbell laterals 3 drop set starting 45lbs x 6
standing calf raises 3 drop set
seated calf raises 3 drop set
reverse curl 30kg x 12 super set with plate curls 10kg x 10/10 for 2 sets
25kg block pinch 2 sets for time
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