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Ive read replies and no real answers. The standard should be deca with d-bol. A good oral cycle is dbol and winni..up to 50mgs of each per day....this is good also because winni will keep off water...get rid of that Dbol sleepiness.....add in shbg suppression which is always good....keep gains after cycle.....and also a anti-progestational factor. Many pros use this believe it or not.

This couldn't be more wrong. Say good bye to your erections. Deca and d-bol with no test will probably give you the famous deca dick.

I'm a firm believer that all cycles should start with Test as a foundation. Build on that foundation with things such as d-bol, deca, winny, eg, tren etc but always start with Test as a foundation.