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Old 08-04-2010, 02:40 AM
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Hey DvL,

I'd go something along the lines of this:

Test E @ 600mgs a week for 12 weeks.
Deca @ 400mgs a week for 12 weeks.
Dbol @ 30mgs every day for 2 to 3 weeks, its up to you how long.
HCG 250iu twice per week for the entire cycle, and keep using for 2 weeks past your last injection.
Letro, Arim, or Arom at a low dose ED all through the cycle.

Have Nolva and Clomid on hand just in case, but I really doubt you'll need any;)
I seriously wouldn't add Letro to any cycle, letro will kill off every last bit of estrogen in ones body and we need estrogen to build muscle. Only use letro as a last resort for gyno reversal.

Armidex or Stan are ok but again they are to be kept on hand incase of ERSE.

And you appear to have missed out pct??

Yes hcg can be used throughout the cycle to reduce testicular shrinkage but and pct is still needed...
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Old 08-04-2010, 10:53 PM
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I seriously wouldn't add Letro to any cycle, letro will kill off every last bit of estrogen in ones body and we need estrogen to build muscle. Only use letro as a last resort for gyno reversal.

Armidex or Stan are ok but again they are to be kept on hand incase of ERSE.

And you appear to have missed out pct??

Yes hcg can be used throughout the cycle to reduce testicular shrinkage but and pct is still needed...
Well with the Letro you simply split the tabs into quaters, its very easy done with a tablet splitter;) You see with Letro you can't go wrong, it covers all bases and you can dose the gear as high as you like with Letro.

I didn't miss out on PCT, I am one of those people who believe that clomid and/or nolva are not needed after a cycle. If the user never touches HCG then when he comes off cycle his Test will be low which means his Estrogen will also be low, we all have a Test to Estrogen Ratio in the body, this means he needs as much Estrogen as he can get when he comes off cycle Now if he does use HCG then after the cycle he should be okay to just keep on training as usuall, but as I did say in my previous post it is a good idea to have Nolva and Clomid on hand just in case.

I would also recommend running Natural Test boosters during the entire cycle even if your on HCG.
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