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Has anyone herd of winni v and d-bol by sdi labs is it worth a shit or should i go spend my 500 bucks on the real shit. Would the real stack help me put on lean muscle mass as well as increase my strenght

I think your post is breaking the board rules on so many levels...

As for aas, have you used them before?
How old are you?
How long have you been training?
How tall are you?
What is your bf% ?
How heavy are you?
What is your pct knowledge?
What is your AI knowledge?

These are all important things that must be considered before using aas...

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New member trying to get some info the place i was refering to was legal.and sold hybrid wanted to know if any one herd about it or tried it hence new member go fuck yourself if you didnt understand that this is america.

Don't start crying because the answer you wanted wasn't in the first response. I hope no one helps you if you're going to be an ass hole all the time.

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^^^ Well judging by your post your about 14 years old so in that case id strongly suggest you stay well clear of any of the above compounds for at least another 10 years...

look guys i appoligize im just looking for some help im a freak in the gym and i used to be 5'8 300lbs now im 5'8 180lbs and i want big arms and big bench press i work out with 3 sets of 10 with 225lbs and i cant push any more for 6 months. im sorry if we got off on the wrong foot i assure you im no ass hole and im 30 not 14. again i apoligize you guys have a lot of helpful knowlege that could be helpful to me.

gear isn't your answer.look at your training regimen.you're stuck for 6 months?!that tells me you have no clue what you're doing in and outta the gym.just start googling different sites to get an idea on what routines will fit you and work for you.there's literally a myriad of them.pumpingstation.com has over 1,000 plans from diet to training.it seems by your writing you're far too youmg to consider gear.and 2nd,sdi is fake as shit.if you've seen it in a muscle rag it ain't worth shit.how old are you anyway?you seem to dodge that one a few times.what 17-20yrs old?maybe...?don't be fooled by my low post count here.i'm a vet/vip at just about every major top dog board around and can say i pretty much know my shit.out of the 3 high school kids i've trained in the last year only one stayed with it.now he's captain of his football and wrestleing teams and has lost 3% b/f and gained almost 20 pounds just by changing his training.

3% b/f and 20lb gained, very nice!

im 30 years old and want a pay off for staying in the gym 6 days a week

Hey man ive been on d-bol and optimizer for almost 2 weeks and like the results it gave me, i got the dbol from legal. i took 2 in the mourning and 1 at nite for the first 5 days and took 3 in the mourning and 1 at nite for the last 5 days , ill step it up 1 pill in the mournig after the 5 days r up, no sides or anything i feel great