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hrdgain81 08-20-2008 12:25 PM

Oral Recomp Cycle
As I stated in the Fatloss Showdown thread, its been more then a year since I've dipped into the anabolics. I am excited and I wanted to get my thoughts for this cycle down for everyones review.

Projected start date: Sept 8th
Projected length: 6 weeks

I will be using Epistane, M1t, and Mdien here is how the stack will break down.

Weeks 1 and 2 epi @ 30mg daily, M1t 5mg every other day.
Week 3 epi @ eomg daily
Weeks 4, 5, and 6 epi @30mg daily, Mdien @ 9mg daily

I've run each of these compounds seperately before with great success. So the combination should yield great results. I will also be using the following supps:

e/c stack or possibly clen (1 week on 1 week off for 6 weeks)
BCAAs (40g ed)
Red yeast rice
Hawthorn berry extract
Pro liver (milk thistle, and NAC)
DCP (in off stim weeks)

My Pct will consist of:

Tamox citrate
Activate Extreme
Alpha male
clen (still up in the air about this)

This will be the first cycle I've done without doing barbell work during it, KBs and running only this time around.

The only other issue I'm worried about is libido while on, both m1t and mdien killed it stand alone. Epi wasnt that bad, but i'm debating using low dose tribulus to counter it ... thoughts?

Let me know what you guys think, and thanks in advance.

Ross86 08-20-2008 02:10 PM

That's an interesting layout. IMO, you should DEFINITELY do the tribulus. I know that a lot of people use trib products during a pulse cyle successfully. That should at least keep libido up for a little while longer. I've also heard about people taking some low dose DHEA, but that one is a bit speculative since DHEA seems to do as much good as bad. Are you going to be dosing at at night? How will you split it up throughout the day?

hrdgain81 08-20-2008 02:16 PM

I've never seen a libido increase from DHEA, and I've read that it suppresses HPTA once it builds up to a certain level, so I'm going to stay away from it.

I have a bunch of Alpha Male (trib product) so I'll use that, its really cheap at nutra.

epi will be split, one am, one lunch ish, one pm.

m1t will be dosed in the morning, or perhaps right before workout, not sure on this one yet.

mdien will be divided into two doses, one upon waking, the other right before I go to bed. Its got a 12hr half life, so no need to dose in between.

Ross86 08-20-2008 02:43 PM

Is there any truth to the idea that if you take anabolics (with a short half life) before sleep, that it will cause shutdown faster? I've read that before, but I don't know how much truth there is to it.

shauny2times 08-20-2008 08:28 PM

wow I havnt heard of any of those juices? but as far as libido id say hcg really go me goin when mine started to get weak? seems like you might not want to inject? but maybe enzyte or just arginine it works good on your bonner... n e way that's hardcore how much fat are u tryin to lose? keep me posted on results... and good luck

Ross86 08-21-2008 04:35 AM

Yeah, HCG is good stuff from what I've heard/read. If epi didn't hurt your libido before, then maybe it will help it. I remember seeing a poll about epistane's impact on libido @ AM...about 1/3 of the people had low libido, 1/3 had high libido, 1/3 were neutral.

hrdgain81 08-21-2008 06:08 AM

ross, not sure if there is any truth to the half life statements, but to me it doesnt really matter. If your shut down, your shut down, and with m1t shut down occurs within 24hrs.

Shawn, you most likely havent heard of them because two of them are no longer availabe (m1t, mdien) they were on the ban list back in the day, so i stocked up. the other is readily available (epistane). but your right I cant do pins, I just cant bring myself to do it, I have a weird fobia or something when it comes to them, so hcg isn't an option for me.

shauny2times 08-21-2008 06:42 AM

hey bro I was scared of the pin since 98 but I finally relized the benefit of three seconds of pain and after having my gf do he first one it was like nothing I don't know what I was so freeked about so just kick it around cause its not so bad trust me

hrdgain81 08-21-2008 07:00 AM

Trust me when I tell you its not a fear thing dude. I have been stuck many many times, but there is just something in my brain that triggers an "i'm going to pass out now" response.

It doesnt happen every single time, but it happens often, I actually have to lay down every time i get stuck in the doctors office because I've fallen over before. And let me tell you it sucks being 5'11" and 250-260lbs and passing out like a little girl every time a pin hits your skin dude.

shauny2times 08-21-2008 08:52 PM

well u should know u better than me so..... but that really sucks orals are bad for the body in my opinion...... dang 5,11 260 is big...what bf%? and wha are u shooting for? super chizzled or just lean enough to have your shirt off and your buddys girl droolin?

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