i guess yall just suck at giving advice then

No...if you get fucked up, no one will be telling you "I told you so". But they'll be shaking their heads when you end up at the doctor's office or hospital. You're old enough to know better, you just need to do better. I wasn't trying to rip you a new one. My post should have helped you realize that you have no idea what you're getting into. Why do you think I went to such trouble to list all of the different things that you should take into account? It definitely wasn't to rip you a new one. I have helped a lot of kids your age and a little younger figure out what to do for PCT (after they already messed up) and most of them ended up going to the doctor anyway, which was what I first recommended. It's not too cool to have a pair of tits you need a bra for when you're 18.

In all fairness I was trying to come off as an asshole, but with good reason. Looking back at some of your posts, you have always been searching for a magic pill. Members on the forum have given you solid advice on training and diet but you ignored that and continue your hunt for a miracle drug.



That sort of mentality I cannot respect. You think the hard work we do in and out of the gym could be accomplished just by swallowing a few pills?


You’re chasing after a ghost. There is no substitute for hard work. Get used to the fact.

hard work is very tough for young people these days. in the gym...at work...in school. america sucks sometimes.

then you suck at asking questions.


i guess people trying to spare you from fucking yourself up is bad advice....good call there.

At any other board you go to, you would have gotten flamed. If you're going to consider doing a cycle, you should know everything you can before you start. It's like jumping out of an airplane without checking to see if you're wearing a parachute.

In regards to your original post, "and should i take milk thistle or anything else to help out?"
- That's like asking "Should I be taking protein or something?" for bodybuilding. Just so you have an idea of what it sounded like. That's just one example. I could go through the entire post and pick it apart, but that's not the point of the thread or the forum. I think you've gotten all of the advice on the subject that you're likely to get since you got that attitude.

Then go somewhere else

All of the people that posted frequently contribute to the board in an intelligent manner.

For you to come here and ask for steroid advice is totally non-sense. Your'e 18 and you're going to fuck something up if you're only specific point is asking about milk thistle.

Everyone here has worked long and hard to get where they're at. It would be wise to take a look at everyone's progress and see how they got there, and respect the fact that they had the drive and guts to do it. I guarantee you that most of us have seen better gains naturally than you ever will on gear.

You've sent me PM's before and I've always taken the time to give you the advice and help that you need, just like everyone here did when I was starting out. I've come a long way from where I started because of this forum and its member, and I try and pay it forward as best I can. Does that deserve disrespect? :arg: You piss away invaluable experience and knowledge by treating the members like shit.

that being the case, you wont have to worry about us giving you anymore then. this is completely uncalled for, we are all trying to help you, if you dont like it, you can go elsewhere. But anyone that tells you at your age an size that steroids are a good choice is an idiot, as you are if you take them now.

stakd should fuck off. slayer was right in being an asshole. this guy doesnt any respect from me either. you dont come into a board, ask a question and then moan and whine when you get an answer your dont like.